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Newsgroups: What are Newsgroups, and how do I use Newsgroups Postings?

Newsgroups (sometimes called Usenets) are discussion forums or bulletin boards - places where individuals can post their messages for others to read and respond.



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Adult Newsgroups

There are now thousands of public newsgroups that cover a variety of topics and interests. Each newsgroup is used to discuss a particular topic, e.g. "how to buy a car", anything you need to know about tennis",  "what's the best business to start", etc...

One of the most productive ways to use newsgroups to market your program is to find any topics you are interested in. For example, golf. (I know, you'd much rather know about the sex groups, but we will come to that a little later). 

Find the newsgroup that deals with golf. Visit their message board and get the feel of what's happening there and what's being discussed. Find a posting that you want to respond and post your response. Make sure that your response message contains your email signature. Your email signature is the most subtle way to promote your program without violating the particular message board policies.

Note: Be sure to read the newsgroups policies before doing any postings. Most newsgroups do not condone overt advertising from those who post. Using your email signature is a subtle way of doing it.


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What is a moderated newsgroup?

According to the Netnews Moderator Handbook:
'Moderated' means that all postings to the newsgroup go to a mail address (e.g., comp-std-unix@uunet.uu.net) instead of appearing in the newsgroup directly. The postings are then forwarded via email to a moderator, or group of moderators, or even an automated program, who decides whether to actually inject the article into the newsgroup or to reject it as not meeting guidelines spelled out in the group's charter.

The main purpose of newsgroup moderation is to prevent inappropriate posts to the newsgroup. For example, moderation can prevent discussion or requests for software from appearing in groups dedicated to posting source code. It can also be used to facilitate discussions, to create a forum for announcements, to prevent repeated posts of the same information, or to cut off endless uninformative arguments. Some groups, e.g., rec.humor.funny and some source groups, also use it to control the traffic volume.


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What is netiquette?

Usenet is an anarchic society of people talking about things that interest them. In most societies, the best communication is achieved by speaking and acting in a civil and polite manner. This is not always the case in Usenet.

However, things run more smoothly when people are civil and "play by the rules." There is a counterproductive argument which reasons "This is cyberspace... there are no rules, so fuck you for trying to foist these upon me." This argument is highly counterproductive and does nothing except piss people off.

I am of the belief that netiquette exists because people before us have discovered what works well, and after all, if it ain't broke... But people will always do what they want when they have no fear... we only hope they do what's "right."

Sure, it sounds "square," but playing nice gets so much more done.


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How to join a Usenet group

It's simple. Just start reading. Read for a couple weeks. This is called "lurking." Feel the place out. Find out what people talk about, see who's who. Every Usenet group has experts... take the time to figure out who these people are. Find a FAQ for the group and read it. Maybe the question you need answered has been answered before. After all this time, you'll make your first post, and you'll be nervous, and if you're lucky someone will answer it. Then you'll make a second, then a third... then you'll know an answer to someone else's question and *presto!* you're a productive member of a Usenet group.


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How do I create a new newsgroup?

To create new newsgroups in the big eight (comp, humanities, misc, news, rec, sci, soc, and talk), a formal process is followed. The process starts with RFDs (Requests for Discussion) and eventually goes to a formal CFV (Call For Votes). The vote is monitored by an impartial person, and votes must follow strict rules to be counted. The YES votes must be two-thirds or more of the votes and must exceed NO votes by 100 votes or more. If the vote meets those requirements, a control message is sent out creating the new group. The process works, because enough newsadmins (newsgroup administrators) agree with it, and they are ultimately the ones who review the incoming control messages and decide whether a given newsgroup is carried on their system or not. There are occasional anarchists who try to break the system, and although they can become quite a nuisance, the system still works.

Alternative newsgroups, particularly the alt series, follow a much less formal procedure. No votes are taken. but a group can be proposed and discussed on alt.config. If a group has been discussed favorably on alt.config, someone sends out a control group creating the new group. Acceptance is up to each newsadmin, and it will have wider acceptance if it has been discussed favorably first.

You can read about new and proposed newsgroups in news.announce.newgroups and alt.config.


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What's a newbie?

A newbie is a person who is new to the 'Net. It is not bad in and of itself, I mean, you have to be new before you can be old, right? However, there are some things you can do to make being new not so bad. While some people use the term as a epithet, most people use it to describe someone new.

For instance, take the time to lurk around a group (read things for a week or so, but don't post to get the feel for what is going on). Catch the scene, then post.

It's kinda like being a freshman again. In a few years you'll rule the school, but at first, you'll feel pimply and awkward. Fortunately, things happen much faster here. You'll be an old-timer in a matter of months.

You'll probably see reference to this document, and you'd get it and read all about us, and feel good knowing what you're in for. If you don't see a reference to this document, then this sentence is quite rather a paradox, isn't it?


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What else is there to know about posting and Netiquette?

A few things will help you on your way down the Usenet highway.

Here are some things mentioned in the document Request For Comment 1855 that you may find helpful:

In NetNews parlance, "Posting" refers to posting a new article to a group, or responding to a post someone else has posted. "Cross-Posting" refers to posting a message to more than one group. If you introduce Cross-Posting to a group, or if you direct "Followup-To:" in the header of your posting, warn readers! Readers will usually assume that the message was posted to a specific group and that followups will go to that group. Headers change this behavior.

Read all of a discussion in progress (we call this a thread) before posting replies. Avoid posting "Me Too" messages, where content is limited to agreement with previous posts. Content of a follow-up post should exceed quoted content.

Send mail when an answer to a question is for one person only. Remember that News has global distribution and the whole world probably is NOT interested in a personal response. However, don't hesitate to post when something will be of general interest to the Newsgroup participants.

Check the "Distribution" section of the header, but don't depend on it. Due to the complex method by which News is delivered, Distribution headers are unreliable. But, if you are posting something which will be of interest to a limited number or readers, use a distribution line that attempts to limit the distribution of your article to those people. For example, set the Distribution to be "nj" if you are posting an article that will be of interest only to New Jersey readers.

If you feel an article will be of interest to more than one Newsgroup, be sure to CROSSPOST the article rather than individually post it to those groups. In general, probably only five-to-six groups will have similar enough interests to warrant this.

Consider using Reference sources (Computer Manuals, Newspapers, help files) before posting a question. Asking a Newsgroup where answers are readily available elsewhere generates grumpy "RTFM" (read the fine manual - although a more vulgar meaning of the word beginning with "f" is usually implied) messages.

Although there are Newsgroups which welcome advertising, in general it is considered nothing less than criminal to advertise off-topic products. Sending an advertisement to each and every group will pretty much guarantee your loss of connectivity.

If you discover an error in your post, cancel it as soon as possible.

DO NOT attempt to cancel any articles but your own. Contact your administrator if you don't know how to cancel your post, or if some other post, such as a chain letter, needs canceling.

If you've posted something and don't see it immediately, don't assume it's failed and re-post it.

Forging of news articles is generally censured. You can protect yourself from forgeries by using software which generates a manipulation detection "fingerprint", such as PGP (in the US).

Expect a slight delay in seeing your post when posting to a moderated group. The moderator may change your subject line to have your post conform to a particular thread.

Don't get involved in flame wars. Neither post nor respond to incendiary material.


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Spam, Spam, Spam...

Any message posted to more than 20 groups is spam, typical in sex related newsgroups. Most spams are off- topic commercials. Please ignore spam or send e-mail to the poster and/or to the system administrator from which the spam was posted but do not post a public reply. If you cannot resist the urge to post a public reply, which will annoy as many readers as did the original post, please at least remove phone numbers and addresses so you don't give more publicity to the original post to which you are objecting. Many spams will be cancelled but your reply with quoted material will not be, insuring that the offensive ad remains longer than it otherwise would have.

Though spam takes more system resources (diskspace) and is hated by system administrators for that reason, velveeta or inappropriate crossposting is more disruptive to newsgroups. Particularly, the posting of provocative messages to diverse or antagonistic newsgroups (e.g. alt.cat.lovers and alt.animal.haters) tends to provoke flame wars and argumentative threads that seem to go on forever. Try to ignore velveeta and inappropriate crossposts. If you respond to a crossposted message, pay attention to the groups in which it is posted and remove those in which you do not wish your reply to appear. If you don't you may find yourself flamed from a group you never heard of before.

Tip: Try searching for groups with 'nospam' in their title. These are strictly moderated groups, with virtually no spam, but ALWAYS read the FAQ's associated with these groups before posting.


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What should my posts look like?

YOUR POSTS SHOULD NOT LOOK LIKE THIS. THIS IS NOT THE WAY A POST SHOULD LOOK. IF YOU MAKE A POST THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS, YOU WILL PROBABLY GET FLAMED.

CAPS LOCK is the Usenet equivalent of shouting. People don't like people who shout all the time in real-life, and the same holds true here. Don't type your message in all UPPERCASE -- it's extremely difficult to read (although a short stretch of uppercase may serve to emphasize a point heavily). Try to break your message into logical paragraphs and restrict your sentences to sensible lengths.

Use correct grammar and spelling. Electronic mail is all about communication - poorly worded and misspelt messages are hard to read and potentially confusing. Just because electronic mail is fast does not mean that it should be slipshod, yet the worst language-mashing I have ever seen has been done in e-mail messages. If your words are important enough to write, then they're also important enough to write properly.

Avoid public "flames" - messages sent in anger. Messages sent in the heat of the moment generally only exacerbate the situation and are usually regretted later. Settle down and think about it for a while before starting a flame war. (Try going and making yourself a cup of coffee - it's amazing how much you can cool down even in that short a time, besides which a cup of good coffee is a great soother).

If you need to vent some frustration, do it in e-mail. No one wants to read about your petty arguments. If you must argue in public, do it in the newsgroup designed for arguments: alt.flame


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Troubleshooting: Welcome to alt.test

Something's wrong. But what? Could it be your newsfeed is down? Or maybe you're doing something wrong. So, you post message to alt.sex.movies or rec.arts.movies.erotica saying TEST - PLEASE IGNORE. And you get flamed or rejected. Why?

alt.test is a newsgroup dedicated to test messages. As alt.sex.movies is dedicated to discussing porn flicks, and alt.flame is dedicated to flame wars -- alt.test is dedicated to making sure your mailer works. rec.arts.movies.erotica is a moderated group, the fact that you got a rejection notice should tell you all is well.

People don't want to see your test postings in their newsgroups, and this goes for any newsgroup. So post to alt.test. And use a wacky re: line, or you'll never find your post.